Texas/OU Leaving Big 12; How It Could Restructure College Football?: Lets discuss

Matt Galatzan

Managing Editor/Publisher
Staff member
This is going to change the landscape of college athletics, and the Big 12 is well... toast.

There is a bunch to unpack here, but let's start with this -- What will the new SEC look like?

In that scenario, here is my guess for what would happen -- The SEC becomes the first conference to shift to a 16-team, four-division format.

That could look like this:

Division 1: Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Missouri
Division 2: LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Mississippi
Division 3: Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Division 4: Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina

But what happens to the rest of the Big 12? Do the Other Power conferences try to match the SEC at 16 teams each?

Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Baylor, and TCU move the Pac 12 -- making it a 16 team league, and giving them a big footprint in Texas. That also shifts the Pac 12 into a four-team division scenario, much like the SEC will likely shift too.

Division 1: USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal
Division 2: Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah
Division 3: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State
Division 4: Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU

The Big 10 will also likely want to head down that route and could absorb Kansas and Iowa State, and sending them 16 teams as well.

In that scenario, a four-team divisional structure could be as follows:

Division 1: Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Indiana
Division 2: Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland
Division 3: Wisconsin, Minnesota, Northwestern, Illinois
Division 4: Kansas, Iowa State, Iowa, and Nebraska

Not wanting to get left behind, the ACC would also likely be aggressive, and try and scoop up the remnants -- adding the likes of West Virginia, and UCF (or potentially even Notre Dame)

In that scenario, a four-team divisional structure could be as follows:

Division 1: Clemson, Louisville, Virginia Tech, Virginia
Division 2: Florida State, Miami, UCF, Georgia Tech
Division 3: North Carolina, Duke, North Carolina State, Wake Forest
Division 4: Boston College, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia

It is a clean break, a bold new structure that could put all conferences on an even platform.

What do yall think?
 
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PatrickDallas

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This is going to change the landscape of college athletics, and the Big 12 is well... toast.

There is a bunch to unpack here, but let's start with this -- What will the new SEC look like?

In that scenario, here is my guess for what would happen -- The SEC becomes the first conference to shift to a 16-team, four-division format.

That could look like this:

Division 1: Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Missouri
Division 2: LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Mississippi
Division 3: Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Division 4: Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina

But what happens to the rest of the Big 12? Do the Other Power conferences try to match the SEC at 16 teams each?

Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Baylor, and TCU move the Pac 12 -- making it a 16 team league, and giving them a big footprint in Texas. That also shifts the Pac 12 into a four-team division scenario, much like the SEC will likely shift too.

Division 1: USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal
Division 2: Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah
Division 3: Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State
Division 4: Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU

The Big 10 will also likely want to head down that route and could absorb Kansas and Iowa State, and sending them 16 teams as well.

In that scenario, a four-team divisional structure could be as follows:

Division 1: Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Indiana
Division 2: Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers, Maryland
Division 3: Wisconsin, Minnesota, Northwestern, Illinois
Division 4: Kansas, Iowa State, Iowa, and Nebraska

Not wanting to get left behind, the ACC would also likely be aggressive, and try and scoop up the remnants -- adding the likes of West Virginia, and UCF (or potentially even Notre Dame)

In that scenario, a four-team divisional structure could be as follows:

Division 1: Clemson, Louisville, Virginia Tech, Virginia
Division 2: Florida State, Miami, UCF, Georgia Tech
Division 3: North Carolina, Duke, North Carolina State, Wake Forest
Division 4: Boston College, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia

It is a clean break, a bold new structure that could put all conferences on an even platform.

What do yall think?
How does this impact the expanded CFP 12-team format that's been talked about? And could the Big 12 try to survive by adding BYU, Cincinnati, Boise State and Memphis? Or Houston? I don't know. That sounds sort of second tier, I guess.
 

Matt Galatzan

Managing Editor/Publisher
Staff member
How does this impact the expanded CFP 12-team format that's been talked about? And could the Big 12 try to survive by adding BYU, Cincinnati, Boise State and Memphis? Or Houston? I don't know. That sounds sort of second tier, I guess.
To answer your first question, I don't think it affects it too much. I think that still happens simply because it's best for the game. A 12 team format not only makes things more interesting, but it provides avenues for schools like Texas A&M, Ole Miss, or UCF, Cincinnati, Coastal Carolina, or Indiana a chance to make it, which, even if they don't win, provides them a ton a benefit.

More importantly, though, it's just going to be a giant money driver and money always wins.

As for the Big 12 question, I really don't think that is going to cut it in the grand scheme of things. If that happens, the Big 12 would likely end up being the only conference to not have 16 teams by 2022, which would ostensibly make them an equivalent of a G5 conference. Without Texas and Oklahoma, none of the other schools will be able to survive there, and recruits will just not look at the conference the same way.
 

UT73

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Matt, I really like your thinking. A 12-team playoff? Certainly! Far too much money not to have one and that is the name of the game, is it not.

In terms of the remainder of college football, I am thinking five to six or eight years out, by which time I may be dead since I'm near 80 now.. Let's use the SEC as a base, including OU and UT, and imagine the following happening:
1. Add Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, Minnesota and perhaps, Indiana (each of which has a TV market of a million+
2. Then, from the PAC-12, add USC, UCLA, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, Arizona or Arizona St but not both and Colorado. Same rationale.
3. Then, from the ACC add Clemson or South Carolina from the SEC but not both, yeah, yeah, I know, Florida State, North Carolina, Notre Dame, and Virginia.
4. Remove Vanderbilt, Auburn (this is about TV sets) and Mississippi.
5. Two other schools selected from the remaining - maybe Kansas and Auburn.

This would produce a 32 team football league - Division I football, if you will, run by a group of six ADs/University Presidents rotating with four year overlapping terms and the necessary administrative/investigative/enforcement staff. It would probably be broken into four eight school divisions or, if it were to be expanded to 36 teams, six six school divisions. Lots of winners and losers but it seems to be the way things are going. Schools like Baylor, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Pittsburgh and Boston College just don't have the fan-base to succeed.

Whatdoyouthink?
 
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